[Ur] Ur Digest, Vol 9, Issue 3

nitralime nitralime at googlemail.com
Tue Sep 15 04:00:50 EDT 2009


I don't know what your anwser to do with my question!!! Nice
Advertisement!!!!

Now back to your advertisement!
Unfortunately F# is tightly bound to Microsoft platform which I find very
sad!
It might be a good programming language on that platform but I'm a Unix guy
and mainly use Mac OS X, FreeBSD and Linux.
The statement that your product is much better than ASP.NET and PHP
is no selling point for me!!

Regards
Nik



On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Adam Granicz <adam.granicz at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM, <ur-request at impredicative.com> wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:48:10 +0200
>> From: nitralime <nitralime at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ur] A few questions
>> To: The Ur programming language <ur at impredicative.com>
>> Message-ID:
>>        <53e0cac60909140648q32ad1b7br19eb4ea68c179eeb at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> *Hi Adam*,
>>
>> Where can I find more details about the architecture of Ur/Web
>> "framework"?
>>
>> Almost every web framework on the market enthuses about  the "MVC"
>> pattern.
>> Each of them forces in someway a separation of content, logic and view.
>> For a traditional data centric web applications such a separation of
>> concerns
>> could be a huge advantage during development process.
>> What is the ansatz of Ur/Web?
>>
>> As you surely know, there are also some growing tendencies
>> towards SPI (Single Page Interface) and RIA (Rich Internet Application).
>> For this sort of applications one needs a solid GUI toolkit.
>> As far as I know there are two different approches for providing GUI:
>>    1) using a prebuilt JavaScript GUI toolkit wrapped in some APIs
>>        which in ideal case integrate seamlessly into the core framework
>>    2) [[a subset of the framework's core language) --> JavaScript]]
>> compiler
>>        which provides the GUI toolkit
>>
>> The first alternative can be "easily" realized by taking some web
>> framework
>> and
>> a decent JavaScript GUI toolkit like TIBCO General Interface, Javeline,
>> dhtmlx,
>> Qooxdoo, (to some extent flapjax) etc. and writing some glue codes!
>>
>> The second approach is more fundamental. To the best of my knowledge
>> HOP and Links are the only frameworks that implement it properly.
>>
>> There are also Java oriented frameworks like ZK and Vaadin
>> that follow a similar design concept.
>>
>> What about Ur/Web?
>> Can Ur/Web also be used for RIA?
>>
>> Regards
>> Nik
>>
>
> Hi Nik,
>
> We have a near-full F# to Javascript translator as part of our WebSharper
> platform.  WebSharper is client-based and enables rapid RIA development -
> more info at:
>
> http://www.websharper.com
>
> New demos and tutorials are on the way.  WebSharper doesn't use dependent
> types, but it does give you all the nifty features of F#, including active
> patterns, units of measure, ADTs, etc. - and the resulting web applications
> are stunningly easier and quicker to develop than with ASP.NET or PHP.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam.
>
> --
> Adam Granicz, IntelliFactory
> www.intellifactory.com
>
>
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